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		<title>By: Martin S</title>
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		<dc:creator>Martin S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2009 10:13:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s just like Camaros and Corvettes being similar. They are both cars with 4 driving wheels and 1 steering wheel, and 1 engine. The similarity is there because the designer used similar parts to accomplish the same function. It isn&#039;t there because one evolved from the other.

http://www.khouse.org/articles/1997/143/

Cell Replication 

The details of cell replication are too complex to be described in detail here.  A simplified outline is given below to illustrate the incredible process involved: 5 

1. Replication involves the synthesis of an exact copy of the cell&#039;s DNA.
 
2. An initiator protein must locate the correct place in the strand to begin copying.

3. The initiator protein guides an &quot;unzipper&quot; protein (helicase) to separate the strand, forming a fork area.  This unwinding process involves speeds estimated at approximately 8000 rpm, all done without tangling the DNA strand!

4. The DNA duplex kinks back on itself as it unwinds.  To relieve the twisting pressure, an &quot;untwister&quot; enzyme (topo-isomerase) systematically cuts and repairs the coil.

5. Working only on flat, untwisted sections of the DNA, enzymes go to work copying the strand.  (Two complete DNA pairs are synthesized, each containing one old and one new strand.)

6. A stitcher repair protein (DNA ligases) connects nucleotides together into one continuous strand. 

Read and Write 

The process described above is only a small part of the story.  While the unwinding and rewinding of the DNA takes place, an equally sophisticated process of reading the DNA code and &quot;writing&quot; new strands occurs.  The process involves the production and use of messenger RNA.  Again, a simplified process description: 6 

1. Messenger RNA is made from DNA by an enzyme (RNA polymerase).

2. A small section of DNA unzips, revealing the actual message (called the sense strand) and the template (the anti-sense strand).

3. A copy is made of the gene of interest only, producing a relatively short RNA segment.

4. The knots and kinks in the DNA provide crucial topological stop-and-go signals for the enzymes.

5. After messenger RNA is made, the DNA duplex is zipped back up.

Adding to the complexity and sophistication of design, the genetic code is read in blocks of three bases (out of the four possible bases mentioned earlier) that are non-overlapping.  

Moreover, the triplicate code used is &quot;degenerate,&quot; meaning that multiple combinations can often code for the same amino acid-this provides a built-in error correction mechanism.  (One can&#039;t help but contrast the sophistication involved with the far simpler read/write processes used in modern computers.)

A Common Software House 

All living things use DNA and RNA to build life from four simple bases.  The process described above is common to all creatures from simple bacteria all the way to humans.  

Evolutionists point to this as evidence for their theory-but the new discoveries of the complexity of the process, and the fact that bacterial ribosomes are so similar to those in humans, is strong evidence against evolution.  The complexities of cell replication must have been present at the beginning of life.  

A simple explanation for the similarities of the basic building blocks can be found if one realizes that all life originates from a single &quot;software house.&quot;  &lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;References : &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s just like Camaros and Corvettes being similar. They are both cars with 4 driving wheels and 1 steering wheel, and 1 engine. The similarity is there because the designer used similar parts to accomplish the same function. It isn&#8217;t there because one evolved from the other.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.khouse.org/articles/1997/143/" rel="nofollow">http://www.khouse.org/articles/1997/143/</a></p>
<p>Cell Replication </p>
<p>The details of cell replication are too complex to be described in detail here.  A simplified outline is given below to illustrate the incredible process involved: 5 </p>
<p>1. Replication involves the synthesis of an exact copy of the cell&#8217;s DNA.</p>
<p>2. An initiator protein must locate the correct place in the strand to begin copying.</p>
<p>3. The initiator protein guides an &quot;unzipper&quot; protein (helicase) to separate the strand, forming a fork area.  This unwinding process involves speeds estimated at approximately 8000 rpm, all done without tangling the DNA strand!</p>
<p>4. The DNA duplex kinks back on itself as it unwinds.  To relieve the twisting pressure, an &quot;untwister&quot; enzyme (topo-isomerase) systematically cuts and repairs the coil.</p>
<p>5. Working only on flat, untwisted sections of the DNA, enzymes go to work copying the strand.  (Two complete DNA pairs are synthesized, each containing one old and one new strand.)</p>
<p>6. A stitcher repair protein (DNA ligases) connects nucleotides together into one continuous strand. </p>
<p>Read and Write </p>
<p>The process described above is only a small part of the story.  While the unwinding and rewinding of the DNA takes place, an equally sophisticated process of reading the DNA code and &quot;writing&quot; new strands occurs.  The process involves the production and use of messenger RNA.  Again, a simplified process description: 6 </p>
<p>1. Messenger RNA is made from DNA by an enzyme (RNA polymerase).</p>
<p>2. A small section of DNA unzips, revealing the actual message (called the sense strand) and the template (the anti-sense strand).</p>
<p>3. A copy is made of the gene of interest only, producing a relatively short RNA segment.</p>
<p>4. The knots and kinks in the DNA provide crucial topological stop-and-go signals for the enzymes.</p>
<p>5. After messenger RNA is made, the DNA duplex is zipped back up.</p>
<p>Adding to the complexity and sophistication of design, the genetic code is read in blocks of three bases (out of the four possible bases mentioned earlier) that are non-overlapping.  </p>
<p>Moreover, the triplicate code used is &quot;degenerate,&quot; meaning that multiple combinations can often code for the same amino acid-this provides a built-in error correction mechanism.  (One can&#8217;t help but contrast the sophistication involved with the far simpler read/write processes used in modern computers.)</p>
<p>A Common Software House </p>
<p>All living things use DNA and RNA to build life from four simple bases.  The process described above is common to all creatures from simple bacteria all the way to humans.  </p>
<p>Evolutionists point to this as evidence for their theory-but the new discoveries of the complexity of the process, and the fact that bacterial ribosomes are so similar to those in humans, is strong evidence against evolution.  The complexities of cell replication must have been present at the beginning of life.  </p>
<p>A simple explanation for the similarities of the basic building blocks can be found if one realizes that all life originates from a single &quot;software house.&quot;  <br /><b>References : </b></p>
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		<title>By: kenny p</title>
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		<dc:creator>kenny p</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2009 09:39:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not quite sure what point you are making.

Maybe that some groups of monkeys evolved while others didn&#039;t?


Would that not be making the Creationists argument a little better?





Kp&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;References : &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not quite sure what point you are making.</p>
<p>Maybe that some groups of monkeys evolved while others didn&#8217;t?</p>
<p>Would that not be making the Creationists argument a little better?</p>
<p>Kp<br /><b>References : </b></p>
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		<title>By: Jack F</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jack F</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2009 09:00:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m sat in the office facing somebody that I reckon to be the missing link.&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;References : &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sat in the office facing somebody that I reckon to be the missing link.<br /><b>References : </b></p>
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		<title>By: jaanography</title>
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		<dc:creator>jaanography</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2009 08:38:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What is Abcd a smoking &quot;what is the difference between an animal and a human being? 
it is religion and language.&quot;
Some Gorillas can sign over 100 words, one percent of their DNA is diffrent from us and I think they are smarter for not having religion.  They are smart enough not to have imaginary things that they talk to when times are tough.&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;References : &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What is Abcd a smoking &quot;what is the difference between an animal and a human being?<br />
it is religion and language.&quot;<br />
Some Gorillas can sign over 100 words, one percent of their DNA is diffrent from us and I think they are smarter for not having religion.  They are smart enough not to have imaginary things that they talk to when times are tough.<br /><b>References : </b></p>
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		<title>By: Judy's Rabbit</title>
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		<dc:creator>Judy's Rabbit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2009 08:05:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hurumph! Speak for yourself dear, I look like a rabbit.&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;References : &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;*twitches nose*

I lack knuckle drag as I am sure you do too, but I have observed a lot of primates.
Some look like rats, goldfish and horses too, I&#039;ve seen them all its a bit of a freak show out there isn&#039;t it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hurumph! Speak for yourself dear, I look like a rabbit.<br /><b>References : </b><br />*twitches nose*</p>
<p>I lack knuckle drag as I am sure you do too, but I have observed a lot of primates.<br />
Some look like rats, goldfish and horses too, I&#8217;ve seen them all its a bit of a freak show out there isn&#8217;t it?</p>
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		<title>By: lisalilybet</title>
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		<dc:creator>lisalilybet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2009 07:18:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i am an animal lover, it pains me to kill anything, even a cockroach, a  most ugly pest. i have learnt to value the cockroach even though i kill them - my hatred of them ensures that i keep my kitchen clean otherwise they will be attracted to my home. now the subject of mosquitoes and pests that breed disease - what is their purpose?

i don&#039;t know, i regard them as a curse. with mammals i regard them all as having a soul - you only have to look into their eyes to know that we are in some way we are related - and what is this connection? i call it a soul.

i believe i have a soul, you have a soul; i believe mammals have one. whether this extends to all other creatures, i don&#039;t know, but i respect all animals as potentially having a soul. i regard myself as an animal and i see no physical distinction between myself and any other species of animal. i believe that God made man (humankind) in His own image, therefore we have authority on this planet, we are given many gifts, skills and resources, flexibilty of our bodies and thoughts which the other animals do not have. but we are still animal.&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;References : &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i am an animal lover, it pains me to kill anything, even a cockroach, a  most ugly pest. i have learnt to value the cockroach even though i kill them &#8211; my hatred of them ensures that i keep my kitchen clean otherwise they will be attracted to my home. now the subject of mosquitoes and pests that breed disease &#8211; what is their purpose?</p>
<p>i don&#8217;t know, i regard them as a curse. with mammals i regard them all as having a soul &#8211; you only have to look into their eyes to know that we are in some way we are related &#8211; and what is this connection? i call it a soul.</p>
<p>i believe i have a soul, you have a soul; i believe mammals have one. whether this extends to all other creatures, i don&#8217;t know, but i respect all animals as potentially having a soul. i regard myself as an animal and i see no physical distinction between myself and any other species of animal. i believe that God made man (humankind) in His own image, therefore we have authority on this planet, we are given many gifts, skills and resources, flexibilty of our bodies and thoughts which the other animals do not have. but we are still animal.<br /><b>References : </b></p>
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		<title>By: amir el muhammady</title>
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		<dc:creator>amir el muhammady</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2009 06:49:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i think you&#039;ve no strong factual evidence. having the same look, doesn&#039;t mean we are them (human = gorillas). an example, your face look alike your brother. so, does it mean that you were evolved from him? no, but you and your brother came from one source which is your mom and just as same as s and gorillas. having the same features doesn&#039;t mean we are sharing the same genetics. okay?&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;References : &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i think you&#8217;ve no strong factual evidence. having the same look, doesn&#8217;t mean we are them (human = gorillas). an example, your face look alike your brother. so, does it mean that you were evolved from him? no, but you and your brother came from one source which is your mom and just as same as s and gorillas. having the same features doesn&#8217;t mean we are sharing the same genetics. okay?<br /><b>References : </b></p>
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		<title>By: Sorrow Free</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sorrow Free</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2009 06:13:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In your analogy you compare one breed of dog to another breed.

None of the apes you mentioned are even from the same genus as Homo sapien sapien...more or less the same species.

Very poor analogy...try again.&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;References : &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In your analogy you compare one breed of dog to another breed.</p>
<p>None of the apes you mentioned are even from the same genus as Homo sapien sapien&#8230;more or less the same species.</p>
<p>Very poor analogy&#8230;try again.<br /><b>References : </b></p>
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		<title>By: Megzy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Megzy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2009 05:34:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That is because they are in the same animal family....just like a chicken and a partridge are both birds, humans and gorillas are both apes/humanoids..&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;References : &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is because they are in the same animal family&#8230;.just like a chicken and a partridge are both birds, humans and gorillas are both apes/humanoids..<br /><b>References : </b></p>
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		<title>By: Monica V</title>
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		<dc:creator>Monica V</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2009 05:26:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They look just as suspiciously similar as Plymouths and Chryslers.  Or they look as similar as Fords and Mercuries.   Or they look as similar as a Tahoe or a Yukon. - Same designer, genius! &lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;References : &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They look just as suspiciously similar as Plymouths and Chryslers.  Or they look as similar as Fords and Mercuries.   Or they look as similar as a Tahoe or a Yukon. &#8211; Same designer, genius! <br /><b>References : </b></p>
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